Multiple Genres per Album
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I'd like to see a way to "link" multiple genres to an album. Currently, if an album is tagged "Pop; Rock" it doesn't show up under "Pop" or "Rock". It could be fairly easily doable if there's currently a mapping of [genre: album] stored in the database somewhere (and I'd guess there is). For each album imported, you could see if there's something that looks like a delimiter (semicolon, comma, ampersand, etc). Then on import you could add the album to that mapping using the genre split around the delimiter, e.g. both the "Pop" and "Rock" genres.
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I would like to up this one, but for songs too. It seems an old request from the old forum, but I just tried this and it seems only the first listed genre is used (using a ; to separate genres). For example, a song which genre is marked as "Nederpop;HipHop;Pop" only appears in Astiga as Nederpop, but not as HipHop nor Pop. So it seems a step further of the old request, but still not quite where I would want it to be.
Many songs belong to multiple genres. Either they are a mix, they are an instance of a song in a certain genre becoming so popular it also becomes part of pop music, or it might be foreign pop music, like Kpop, Jpop, Russian pop, Cpop, etc, Nederpop, etc. It would be nice to have these songs available in all listed genres.
This should be a standard feature, as even within one album, there can be many genres. All my songs are tagged at an individual genre level. That seems the most important part of genre requirements before anything else.
Having multiple genres per song is another level of complication. I haven't seen many/apps that support multiple genres per song properly.
I'm pretty sure you can add a different genre for each song, it'll just list the album in the "album" tab as "containing this genre" and the only lists the song tagged as it in the song part below that on the genre-specific page. That's just a mater of making your metadata as so.
Since apparently Astiga already realises that a ; means there are multiple genres listed (which is to my knowledge a common way of adding multiple genres), I'm hoping that it will add the songs in the list of all of these genres instead of only the first. As for having the correct genres, that'll be up to the person who enters the metadata. But since many modern artist get influenced by multiple genres, many songs are a mix between genres and it can be hard to decide to which genre a song belongs most.
While being at it, same thing could be said for artist. Right now, I can use album artist and song artist to at least add two artist on songs that are collaborations (it appears on both artists' page), but I seem unable to add more. Yet, I have songs that are a collaboration between 4 or even more artists. The same principle for multiple genres could be used there.
I vote to expand this to more than genres. All tags, in fact. I'd like to add 2 artists and see them separately in the lists, not as "John Lennon/Paul McCartney"
Interestingly enough it seems to be "updated" a bit. Where first it'll only lists the first genre, right now when using a ; between genres, it'll makes a new genre with all genres combined (like "nederpop;hiphop;pop" became "nederpop & hiphop & pop" as one big genre). I guess that's a sign that there is being looked into it 😉.
Using Discogs to import album information, all the separate genres in my library are delimited by a forward slash. When the "multiple genres per track"-feature is implemented, I sure hope it will support both semicolons and forward slashes as potential delimiters!
@gravelld You asked me some time ago if there were treads for all my requests and bugs. I got some spare time so I figured I'll go by them, tagging you in those existing and still relevant as they can be a bit old.
This one is still very very interesting to me. I gladly go over all my files their metadata if this is added.
@gravelld is there any info on whether a bunch of top requested feature enhancements like this one are on the implementation roadmap? Would love to see this (and a bunch of the other top voted requests) finally added to Astiga so the genre filters could be more useful. As it stands filtering by genre isn't very useful because it can't parse multiple genres from album metadata.
The roadmap is here and is intentionally a bit high level, because priorities often shift.
Sometimes smaller improvements like this are a bit difficult to prioritise. Maybe what I should do is commit to a set number of feature requests per quarter to be implemented, and I'd order by the number of thumbs up in the forum (inevitably I'd have to take into account estimated effort too).
For sure. Yeah I get that it's a balance and you have weigh it against new features, tech debt, growing pain maintenance, etc etc. Mostly wanted to bump this and put my two cents in that it would be cool to get some of these features a bunch of us requested years back when we migrated from GPM as well as various "quality of life" improvements that a bunch of us users express interest in. Thanks Dan.
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@buppi @Cambionn @Coyley Made some progress!
It's finally happening! You're right when you said:
Some of these "polishing" improvements which push features that extra 5% can often make the difference between a useful service and not.
To me, this is a game changer in how I organize and can use my music collection. I mean, I already used Astiga for a reason of course so it's not like the service wasn't useful to me. But I can't express how excited I am about this news!
Let's make sure you don't forget parsing this properly trough Subsonic's API so it also works on secondary apps 😉.
That's an interesting one; the original Subsonic API didn't support multiple genres. It was added in OpenSubsonic, so your client of choice will have to talk that. See https://opensubsonic.netlify.app/docs/responses/albumid3withsongs/
Oh good to know!
Feishin (my desktop client) is OpenSubsonic for sure. I don't see it listed for Tempo (my phone client), but issues link to OpenSubsonic specs making me thing they also use that.
I will make sure to double check if my clients are using OpenSubsonic before filing bugs after it's implemented.
Hey! Just a question that popped into my mind. Is multi-artist support also on the table? Since it's pretty much the same idea, but for artists instead of genres?
No, it's not. I guess it could easily be generalised... Is there a thread for that?
I think I once posted asking for it, but that's a long time back. It would likely take quite some searching to find it back. But it would be a great way to deal with collabs and featuring artists no?
I now abuse the artist & album artist tags for that. So at least so gs show up under both artists. If I go back to alter my metadata for this, it'll be great if I can do that as well.
Altrpugh with artist, the scrobbling also needs to be handled well or it'll get screwed up. I'd suggest using first artist listed only for scrobbles.
yayyy thank you for the update!! Excited for the polishing :)
But it would be a great way to deal with collabs and featuring artists no?
It will also be required for the next stages of library enhancement - track credits and the like.